During my relatively short time being involved with
coaches it became abundantly clear as to what coach to
by. I used my previous experience working with, and
restoring collector cars twisted a bit to fit the world
of coaches. In analyzing anything old, desirable, and or
collectable, the same rules seem to apply. Something
which had a limited production run for whatever reason
(usually the lack of sales)also has limited interest and of course parts availability
later in its life or rebirth. I too looked at 4104s because they seemed
readily available in my price range. Upon further evaluation all that you mentioned
George, showed up in either conversation or in actually viewing the coach and realizing
what would be needed to put it in first class condition let alone the additional cost of
the conversion!For the above reasons, The Eagle to me had what I was looking for.
Through the years it has not changed in basic design and
construction. By continuously updating the coach it could for the most part start looking
like a late model high end coach at an affordable price.
Due to the fact that Eagle ownership has changed hands and
gone through financial reorganization, the commercial carriers apparently have become gun
shy on purchasing Eagles! The good news for converters is that there is an abundance for
conversion and or parts. Many of the items needed are common truck stop, and GM parts.
The rust that people talk about is not unique to Eagle.
Anything made of steel will rust. The beauty part of an Eagle is that you can remove a
section of siding and replace the rusted piece of frame underneath with new steel, and
while doing so the coach will not break in half. It has sufficient support in being built
like a bird cage, that one could probably make this type of repair without supporting
jacks, however I would not recommend doing work on anything without safety precautions.
Doing the math; an older good looking coach with little parts
availability for somewhere around $8,000 to $15,000 verses an Eagle in the same range,
then add another $20,000 for the conversion. Now what is the resale value and
desirability?
You can probably buy an Eagle entertainer with a poor looking
exterior in the same dollar range during final negotiations. The pluss would
include, that you dont have to do a lot of parts shopping in that everything has
already been fitted. With luck it will contain a diesel genset capable of providing heat
and air conditioning throughout the entire coach which is already installed.
Consider that
the coach may already have a raised roof, an $8,000 value for those so inclined, half bath
facilities, holding tanks, stereo, TV, Microwave, refrigerator and sleeping facilities.
The frosting on the cake is that with perhaps a good cleaning
and removal of deteriorated carpet etc. the coach can be used now! The interior
configuration is not perfect from a convenience stand point, but when you sell that old
trailer or motor home it produces your interior funding! Most commercial converters build
the interiors outside of the coach and install after insulation and carpeting have
been installed. The interior could be made in sections and during the winter months
be installed. You still have heat and light sources available.
Well, enough of my two cents worth, lets see some buss on the road!
Bill Phillips NY
eaglebus40@hotmail.com